PODCAST EPISODE 2: Stories, Science and Society: Reframing Geoscience Communication with P.Geo. Paul Hubley
Join podcast host Veronica Klassen and guest Professional Geoscientist and CEO of Geoscientists Canada Paul Hubley in this discussion of geoscience communication and the future of geoscience. Hear from Paul on his career, life advice, and how we can start to create a more accurate perception of geoscience in society. Join us in discussing how Earth Science can help us wrestle with the big issues of our time, and the importance of relationship building, storytelling, and listening in addressing these issues. Episode Audio: You can also listen to our podcast on these platforms: Episode Transcript: Veronica Klassen Hello, everyone. Welcome to Beneath Your Feet, a geoscience podcast. I’m Veronica Klassen, science communicator, geology enthusiast and your host. Here at the APGO Education Foundation, our mission is to spark curiosity and passion for the geology of Ontario. Whether you’re a geology nerd, science enthusiast, or nature lover, this podcast is for you. Join us as we geek out over fascinating geology, uncover the hidden stories and secrets of our extraordinary planet, and explore the captivating world beneath your feet. Today I’m meeting with Paul Hubley, and we’re going to be talking a little bit about his career, we’re going to be talking about advice for students, the perception of geoscience in society and some other really cool things. So yeah, if you want to just do like a quick introduction to yourself, that would be great. Paul Hubley, P. Geo Fantastic. Thank you very much. Thanks for inviting me here today, I’m excited to be here. So, Paul Hubley, I’m a male in my in my 50s, born in Halifax, living with my wife, Caroline, and on any given day, between two and three of our five kids are living with us as. We also have a little chihuahua. And I’m a professional geoscientist. Before we go further, geoscience is a regulated profession, just like engineering. So I’m a P. Geo. I’ve been in environmental consulting for 35 years, and the vehicle that brought me there is an education in Earth Sciences. I’ve got a Bachelors of Science with Honours in Geological Sciences from Brock University and a Master’s of Science in Earth Science from the University of Waterloo. That was way back when, in 1995 before the turn of the century, turn of the millennium. Other than being a father and geoscientist, I’m a self described serial volunteer. Just to pick up skills and contribute in ways that work didn’t bring bring to me. I like to landscape and build things outside, as long as it doesn’t have to be too fancy, then count me in. I’m a measure once, cut twice, kind of person. So I like to dabble. And I found out recently I like to do some creative writing, so I’m a bit of a groundskeeper as well. Veronica Yeah. And you’ve been doing some creative writing for our blog, which has been very fun. So you can check out those articles on our website. Paul Yeah, it’s more of a dabbler. So the groundskeeper is the landscaping and the creative writing is a bit of a dabbler. So yeah, I hope that people do check it out. Veronica Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right. Thanks so much. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about how you first got interested in geoscience. Like what drew you to geology? Paul Well, I had always been drawn to the ocean. Being born in Halifax and going to Nova Scotia almost every year and summer, the ocean was just part of my life. And somewhere around grade 10 or 11, I was convinced that I wanted to be in the Coast Guard. It would take me to the East Coast that I loved, keep me on the water for my entire life. That’s what I was thinking and I thought I’d like to push myself, I like to travel, all those things. And for some reason I just got the feeling that that particular thing was going to be too limiting. And also the 1980s were the time of deep sea exploration. Jacques Cousteau was sending submarines down to deep sea vents and they were finding these black smokers in the bottom of the Mariana Trench and things like that. And I just thought, this is amazing stuff. So then I switched from the Coast Guard to wanting to be a marine biologist. I was absolutely convinced I was going to be a marine biologist until I took a Grade 13 biology class and felt it wasn’t connecting. It was just a lot of memorization and just technical terms I just wasn’t connecting with. And I also had the opportunity to take a geology class in high school, which is pretty rare. That was inspiring. So, at the same time, the biology bubble was deflating and the geology bubble was inflating. And I thought, wow, I decided that I really wanted to work on environmental issues. And this could be a vehicle to do it. And it is. It has been. And I never looked back. I don’t know where I got it in my head. I thought it was my idea and nobody else had this idea, but apparently I was wrong. There was a whole industry that was building up at the time, so I probably picked it up somewhere else, but I took it on as my own. Veronica That’s awesome. Yeah. So you’ve been on quite a journey. What’s your best piece of advice for young students and how how can they figure out, kind of, what they are interested in, what they want to do? Paul Yeah, ultimately the journey was convoluted and it was difficult and there’s a lot of choices and that can be difficult for people. I guess I could say a couple of things here. One is that what you choose, if you’re lucky enough to feel, it feels right like I was, then go for it, do it.









